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Blackjack card counting operates on a very basic principle: there are cards that are more favorable to the player than the dealer, namely, face cards and aces. This is true for a couple of reasons. First off, the player gets to decide when to stop taking cards, while the dealer must play by a fixed set of rules (usually hitting until they get. By comparison, an average blackjack player using ordinary card counting against a six-deck shoe who has a $100 maximum bet will win about $22 per 100 hands (see this post). Simply put, for the $100 maximum bet player, card counting Over/Under will be nearly six times as profitable as card counting ordinary blackjack. By using an online casino, you can easily practice your card counting skills online for free. Of course, the way blackjack works online is very different to how it works in a real casino. The cards are dealt using a random number generator, rather than an actual deck of cards, meaning that each card dealt is entirely independent of what has. IT'S HARD TO LEARN. First, you have to learn about the rule variations (things like 'double after.

Up until '7 Up Baccarat' (7UB), there has not been a variant of baccarat that is substantially vulnerable to card counting. While baccarat side bets can be a lucrative opportunity, the best an AP can do card counting standard baccarat is an earning rate of about 87 cents-per-shoe with a $1000 maximum bet (see this post). What makes 7UB baccarat different is the unique rule that the Player starting hand always has a seven as its first card. It follows that A’s and 2’s are premium cards for the player side, as they give the Player a natural. Likewise, 8’s and 9’s are premium cards for the Banker hand.

The complete rules for 7UB can be found in this document: Baccarat_7_Up. The main rule changes from standard baccarat are easy enough to describe:

  • The first card for the Player hand is a 7. This is not a “dealt” card; rather it is printed on the layout so that this card does not deplete the shoe in any way.
  • The remainder of the cards needed for the hand are dealt from the shoe.
  • The hand is completed with the usual baccarat drawing rules.
  • The higher baccarat total wins, or in the case of a tie, both the player bet and Banker bet are a push.

The main difference between standard baccarat and 7UB comes in the payouts. Winning wagers made on the Player bet are paid as follows:

  • Player win, total not 7, pays 1-to-1.
  • Player win, total equal to 7, pays 1-to-2.

Winning wagers on the Banker bet are paid as follows:

  • Banker win, total not 7, pays 1-to-1.
  • Banker win, total equal to 7, pays 9-to-5.

Here is the complete combinatorial analysis for the eight-deck game:

In particular:

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  • The house edge for wagering on the Player hand is 2.593%.
  • The house edge for wagering on the Banker hand is 2.579%.

These off-the-top edges are significantly higher than the edges for ordinary baccarat. If not for the novelty of the game, it is difficult to find a reason that 7UB would interest a seasoned player.

The next step in considering advantage play is to compute the effect of removal (EOR) for each card for both the Player and Banker wagers. Based on these EORs, card counting systems can then be developed and tested. As it turns out, the Banker wager is significantly more countable than the Player wager, so I will present the Banker wager in full first.

The following table gives the EORs for the Banker bet. Alongside the EORs, I give an optimal system which uses decimal values for the card counting system. The optimal system is not intended to be used in practice. It is used as a reference system to gauge the strength of any practical system. The last column gives a practical system (system #1) that can be used by an ordinary card counter.

For convenience, here are the card counting tags for these two systems:

  • Optimal system: (1.71, 2.00, -0.62, -0.69, -0.89, -1.52, -1.47, -1.24, 0.90)
  • System #1: (2, 2, 0, 0, -1, -1, -2, -2, -2, 1)

The betting efficiency of System #1 is 0.967, which means it should perform very well compared to the optimal system, as we will see. The next step is to run a simulation of each. I first consider the optimal system.

The following table gives the results of a simulation of one hundred million (100,000,000) eight-deck shoes of 7UB, using the optimal system to count the Banker bet. It is assumed that the AP will only place a Banker wager when the count exceeds the trigger count, and that the AP makes no other wagers. I assume the usual cut-card placement at 14 cards, together with the usual rule for burning initial cards.

The optimal system allows the AP to win 0.714 units per shoe. He has the edge on 23.045% of his hands, with an average edge of 2.982%.

Next I consider system #1. The following table gives the results of a simulation of one hundred million (100,000,000) eight-deck shoes of 7UB using system #1 to count the Banker bet:

System #1 allows the AP to win 0.681 units per shoe. He has the edge on 19.035% of his hands, with an average edge of 3.444%. An AP who is betting $100 whenever the count is +3 or higher, and makes no other wagers, will earn about $68.10 per shoe. System #1 returns over 95% of the value that can be obtained using the optimal system.

What makes this opportunity significant is that there are usually very high limits on the wagers for baccarat. Unlike blackjack, where a card counting AP may struggle to stay under the radar with wagers of $500 or more, in baccarat there is little or no game protection for ordinary card counting. Thus, an AP may be able to wager $10,000 or more per hand with little scrutiny. It follows that card counting 7UB is an extreme vulnerability in terms of its potential dollar-value for the AP. It is therefore extremely urgent to find a reasonable safeguard.

Reducing the penetration through the shuffle does not entirely succeed. The following table gives the win rates for various cut-card depths. Each line is based on a simulation of twenty million (20,000,000) eight-deck shoes:

The win-rate does not go down very quickly with increased cut card depth. Reducing the win-rate from card counting by 50% requires a cut card placement of more than one deck. But even with a 50% earning reduction, the card counter still has a strong opportunity given the size of wagers he can place. A minimum of two decks would need to be cut off to mitigate the card counting risk.

Moving on to the Player side, the following table gives the EORs for the Player bet. Alongside the EORs, I give an optimal system which uses decimal values for the card counting system. This is followed by a practical system that can be used by an ordinary card counter.

For convenience, here are the card counting tags for these two systems:

  • Optimal system: (-2.57, -3.00, 0.69, 0.74, 0.99, 1.08, 1.29, 1.77, 1.31, -0.58)
  • System #1: (-3, -3, 0, 0, 1, 1, 1, 2, 1, 0)

The betting efficiency of System #1 here is 0.962, which again is very strong.

The following table gives the results of a simulation of one hundred million (100,000,000) eight-deck shoes of 7UB, using the optimal system to count the Player bet. It is assumed that the AP will only place a player wager when the count exceeds the trigger count, and make no other wagers.

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The AP can earn 0.524 units per shoe against the player bet using the optimal system.

Here are the results of a simulation of one hundred million (100,000,000) eight-deck shoes of 7UP, using system #1 to count the Player bet:

System #1 allows the AP to win 0.469 units per shoe. He has the edge on 14.224% of his hands, with an average edge of 3.173%. An AP who is betting $100 whenever the count is +3 or higher, and makes no other wagers, will earn about $46.90 per shoe. System #1 returns just over 89% of the value that can be obtained using the optimal system. It follows that playing against the Player bet is both less efficient and less profitable than playing against the Banker bet. For this reason, it is unlikely that a solo counter would target the Player side.

However, there is a unique team opportunity here. If two (or more) APs are playing as a team, then one AP can count the Player bet and the other can count the Banker bet. They can signal each other for when to make their respective wagers. It follows that this team can earn 0.681 + 0.469 = 1.150 units per shoe per team member. If this team is well-funded (and many are), and each team member wagers $10,000 whenever there is an edge, then each team member will earn $11,500 per shoe. Two card counters can earn $23,000 per shoe. If the cut card is placed at one deck, this team can still earn over $12,000 per shoe. It follows that 7UB is untenable if dealt from a shoe with a cut card that is not deeply placed.

I am aware of one location that 7UB is currently offered where it is dealt from a continuous shuffler. This is highly unusual for baccarat and may indicate that this casino was already hit by card counters.

There is an additional side bet that can be offered with 7UB called “Super 7’s.” The unique rule of 7UB is that the Player hand always starts with the Player having a 7. The Super 7’s side bet is paid based on the additional number of 7s that are dealt in the hand.

Here is the pay table for the Super 7’s side bet:

  • Any six 7’s pays 777-to-1.
  • Any five 7’s pays 77-to-1.
  • Any four 7’s pays 17 to 1.
  • Any three 7’s pays 7-to-1.
  • Any two 7’s pays 2-to-1
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If you read this post on the “Lucky Nines” baccarat side bet, you will understand that the Super 7’s side bet is crushable. A team of three counters (with the third counter keeping track of the Super 7's side bet), will absolutely destroy this congregation of opportunities.

The following are my recommendations for safeguarding 7UB:

  • Cut at least two decks off of the shoe.
  • Deal 7UB from a continuous shuffle machine.
  • The Super 7’s side bet should never be offered if 7UB is dealt from a shoe.
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One of the original blackjack side bets is the Insurance wager. This side bet pays 2-to-1 whenever the dealer’s hole card is a ten-valued card, otherwise it loses. This side bet is clearly countable by keeping track of the number of ten-valued cards relative to non-ten-valued cards. The only reason it has not been crushed by APs is because of two limitations on this wager. First, it can only be made when the dealer shows an Ace up, so that the player only has the opportunity to make this side bet once per 13 hands on average. Second, the Insurance wager size is limited to one-half of the player’s main blackjack wager. Without these two limitations, the “ten-in-the-hole” side bet would have long ago been abandoned.

The house edge for Insurance is easy to compute. For example, in a single deck game, there are 16 face cards and 35 non-face cards (the Ace is already exposed). It follows that the true odds for Insurance are 35-to-16, while it pays 32-to-16. The edge on the Insurance bet is then 3/51, or 5.8824%. This is a fairly high house edge, hence the admonition to “never take Insurance.”

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The following table gives the house edge and variance on Insurance for various numbers of decks:

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Many gamblers and industry insiders alike don’t understand that Insurance is not part of the main game of blackjack. There is no rule that says this side bet must be offered. While almost no one makes this side bet, once per 13 hands the dealer has to ask the table for Insurance. If this takes 10 seconds (as the dealer waives her hand back and forth over the table), and the game is moving at 78 rounds per hour, then a full minute is consumed per hour with no benefit to the casino. That amounts to a loss of 1/60 = 1.67% of the total action at the table, and a corresponding incremental loss in revenue and decrease in hold. From a time and motion perspective, Insurance doesn't protect against disasters; Insurance is a disaster.

In addition to the time and motion issues Insurance has, the real estate lost to this side bet is tremendous. Typically, side bets are offered in a small circle next to the player’s main wagering area. However, Insurance usually appears on the layout like this:

Imagine the artwork or other wagering opportunities that could replace a banner that advertises a side bet that wastes time and is barely utilized. For example, the casino could advertise a restaurant or a show in this space.

To see that Insurance is susceptible to card counting, consider an AP playing single deck blackjack. On the first hand after the shuffle, suppose that the AP looks at his cards and those of one neighbor and sees only non-ten-valued cards. Then there are 31 non-ten-valued cards remaining in the deck, so that the odds of winning the Insurance bet are 31-to-16. Voila! The AP has an edge of 1/47 = 2.1277%.

From this example, it follows that there is a simple card counting system that performs perfectly in identifying when the Insurance bet is in the player’s favor. To describe it, we need a few variables. Let:

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D = number of decks.

T = number of ten-valued cards that have been observed. Since there are 16 ten-valued cards per deck, it follows that the number of ten-valued cards remaining in the deck is 16*D – T.

N = number of non-ten-valued cards that have been observed. Since there are 36 non-ten-valued cards per deck, it follows that the number of non-ten-valued cards remaining in the deck is 36*D – N.

Then the odds of winning the Insurance bet are (36*D – N)-to-(16*D – T). The player has the edge over the Insurance wager whenever:

(36*D – N) / (16*D – T) < 2

(36*D – N) < 2*(16*D – T)

36*D – N < 32*D – 2*T

4*D < N – 2*T (Eq. 1)

Next we look at card counting the Insurance bet. The Insurance count assigns the following tags to the cards: {+1, +1, +1, +1, +1, +1, +1, +1, +1, -2}. That is, every non-ten-valued card is assigned the tag +1, and every ten-valued card has the tag -2. The running count RC is kept as usual, by starting at RC = 0 with a fresh shoe, and adding the tag for each card played during the shoe. It follows that the running count after T ten-valued cards and N non-ten-valued cards have been played is:

RC = N – 2*T (Eq. 2)

Note that the right hands side of Eq. 2 is the same as the right hand side of Eq. 1. Combining Eq. 1 and Eq. 2, we see that the player has an edge whenever 4*D < RC, or swapping sides, whenever RC ≥ 4*D + 1. This gives us the following:

Theorem The player has an edge over the Insurance side bet if and only if RC ≥ 4*D + 1

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Therefore, using the Insurance count, the player should play the Insurance side bet at the following trigger running counts:

  • For single-deck, RC equals 5 or higher.
  • For double-deck, RC equals 9 or higher
  • For six decks, RC equals 25 or higher.
  • For eight decks, RC equals 33 or higher.

To compute the profitability from card counting the Insurance bet, I ran four simulations. These simulations were for 1-deck, 2-deck, 6-deck and 8-deck games. In single-deck blackjack, I assumed the player played head’s-up against the dealer and that five rounds were dealt between shuffles. For the multi-deck games I assumed a relatively deep placement for the cut card. The following table summarizes the results of my simulations:

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For example, in the two-deck game with the cut card placed at 75 cards, the AP will make an Insurance bet on 1.672% of his hands, and when he does, the AP's average edge will be 10.905% over the house. If the AP is wagering $50 on Insurance whenever he has the edge, and is getting 100 hands per hour, then the AP will earn $50 x 0.1824 = $9.12 per hour from the Insurance wager. However, the limitations on Insurance make it an opportunity which by itself has little value.

Let me give an example that underscores the true worth of Insurance for the basic strategy blackjack player. Suppose a basic strategy player is playing two-deck blackjack with the cut card placed at 75 cards. Suppose he is flat betting $100 on a high-roller game with good rules (S17, DOA, DAS) at a rate of 100 hands per hour. The baseline house edge on this game is 0.1928%. The basic strategy player will lose $100 x 100 x 0.1928% = $19.28 per hour on his blackjack play, but as shown above, will earn $9.12 from his Insurance play. Playing perfect Insurance reduces the player’s expected loss to $10.16 per hour, or in other terms, the house edge is now 0.1016%. In this game, perfect Insurance play reduces the house edge by over 47.3% of its original value.

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Perfect Insurance play alone is not enough to give the AP an edge, but it can move the arrow strongly in that direction. More commonly, Insurance is used as a heuristic by management to help identify advantage players. Any player who makes the Insurance side bet when holding 8/5, while forgoing Insurance on his J/K will surely raise eyebrows.